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[Sphere Of Influence]

I have been messing around with time shift and smallball throttle and I've decided to use it to my proleague advantage. I will starting next season initiate exhibition games in RAPID succession like 4 or 5 in a row. I will crank up the throttle to 200 and end the games within 15 second. I will run it on all my proleague opponents.. if they give me a match I will avoid them until later when they are more vulnerable (when I timeshift their games each day to see when they are weakest) If they are losing to me consistently I will play them.

The question is, is someone who can simulate 4-5 games in 1 minute to instantly see when it makes most sense to initiate a game an unfair advantage?

Quite frankly Im not sure but I plan on doing it anyway.


(correction due to old married dudes post, I will change MY stadium to my opponents stadium before each exhibition game, I own all the stadiums.)
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[Old Married Dude]

Don't use it so won't vote.


But exhibition games do not reflect PL games in any way.

They are played in your stadium not the opponent's ... so you are not at the disadvantage of the being the visitor.

They also are not the same as BL games .. plus as we know BL games are not the same as PL games.

But I wish you luck in your quest to be King of the world ....

































BTW .. that's a Iceberg dead ahead ...


BTW nice edit to your original post .. I guess I should have quoted you ... LOL


It really makes a poll fair when you edit the choices and the topic to be more specific or even a u-turn from the original discussion
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[maurice2211]

Exhibition Games = False sense of security, IMO.
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[Beaner]

I thought with timeshift that you could watch a game very fast, but still could not initiate the next game until that game was over in normal time. So how could you initiate 4-5 games that quickly? Maybe there is something that I don't know about?
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[Ironbirds]

yore right you can watch the game but the game has to finish in real time so what he is saying is impossible.
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[dekuyper]

[Beaner]

Oh OK thanks. I haven't initiated an exhibition game since 2001, and even then I think I played one.
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[solipsta]

Not cheating at all. Exhibition games are meaningless and you (might, should, could) find that they don't really match up with PL games at all. The only time you'll get repeatedly similar results are when the team is way below or way above you anyways.

Keep track of the Exhibition games for fun. The sway in scores is interesting to see.
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[jimmygfat]

I tried the exhibition game thing for a while with Timeshift, I think it will let you know how your team is doing more than how the opponent's team is playing. If your team is winning most of the time against a power house in exhibition games, I'd say it's worth a shot. Definitely NOT A LOCK! I remember one of my teams 403057 (ROTOR) lost SEVEN one run games in 1st League once, so maybe I'm way out in left field, in fact, I'm quite sure of that one.
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[BasPilot]

I haven't been here for a while, but I'll weigh in for this thread...

There are many random things that create the winner and loser of each game. An exhibition game is, as most of everyone said, not going to totally give you an accurate picture of what your team can do. Think of it this way... Theoredically (is that how you spell that??) you should be able to play anyone that has a smaller star rating than you and you should be able to beat them, right? Well, no, due to randomness you may have a team that wins 50 times in a row on exhibition and loses that one time in the PL game. As for the timeshift and for the other thing you mentioned that I don't know about, you are only looking at a picture over and over again, within the same minute on the server. It may give you a win, but then again, as you play your exhibition game the other guy may be training. If he hits the server a second before you play him, that new training is all going to be there for him. Yeah, that's an akward situation, but still, think about it. Then you add the random way the server acts, which is the same reason for why a 6 star team can beat a 9 star team on any given day, and your exhibition games mean absolutely nothing...


As for the topic of using a time shift during the game you are looking at a situation like this. That time shifter just increases the speed of your computer clock. That's not a really good thing, but it isn't all that bad either. If you had two computers you could do an experiment and realize that all the time shift does for you is give you the results faster. If you were to double speed through an inning it would be easy to record who got hits and where they went and exactly what happened. The game would mimick that exactly in the normal speeded/non-timeshifted game... So, what does time shift do for you? Well, if you want to initiate a game and you have to leave and go to work or something, you can see the results to the game before leaving.

Well, off to bed for me now, enjoy my novel...

[Beaner]

[jagriff3]

I think Exibition Games, BL Games, and PL games all will give your team different results.
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[Smith]

No advantage to using timeshift for exhibition games...
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[Commissioner]

if TS created an advantage then we would have prevented it from working.



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[mlthmp]

[Sphere Of Influence]

hehe, you guys missed the point.

In exhibition games you can turn the game off and start a new one at anytime and it won't be recorded, thats why I can see 4-5 games in 1 minute. (Iron and beaner were confused by this)

Anyway, Im a bit confused. The players play differently in exhibition games? Thats confusing.. I could understand in real life but they are just a bunch of digital images.. Im not sure they'd give it anything less that 100% each time. But I could be wrong.

Well, It has worked for me.. I was scared to play a particular team based on they were a former 3rd league team, I played them 4 times and blew their doors off each time so I challenged them and won convincingly. I guess this only works with the "blow out" factor, meaning if my team is way better than the others.. then I can see by timeshifting it.
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[mlthmp]

[Sphere Of Influence]

read the post above yours and help me figure out why that is... they are just digital images.. Reguardless it seems the general notion is that exhibition games play different.. I dont understand why but apparently its been made to be that way.
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[mlthmp]

[Sphere Of Influence]

Well what I do is, I have all the stadiums and I just change it to the stadium of my opponent. And as far as the scoring, Ive seen that happen in big league games a lot too.. however oh well
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[yagadan05]

To enter my non-important opinion, I think all games are the same. Whether they're Exhibition, ProLeague, Big League. The only thing that makes them different are the SmallBall servers. You'll get a different result each game, if you're consistently winning against a team in exhibition than it's safe to say you'll win a BigLeague or a ProLeague game against them. But what do I know.

[RPIJG]

I tried something like it, it didn't give me any good results. I was just curious


Against 10 teams, I played out 10 exhibition games, figured out how many wins and margin of victory, if I felt comfortable in success meaning 7 wins out of 10 and a margin of victory of 4 runs or more, then I'd play them... final conclusion...

Out of those 10 teams I lost 6 games in BL against them. Margin of victory was at least 2 runs. Another thing that you just can't factor in, unless you do this with BL is, no matter if you play in their home park, you are still the home team. All six of those games that I lost, I lost in the bottom of the end of the game (one game went 26 innings).

[jagriff3]

Ya, there is a lot of factors that you must make sure to cover when doing an experiement like that.
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[speedracer70]

One thing y'all haven't mentioned is the base stealing in exhibition games. Scoring will be different in Ex games because they are still working on players stealing bases and Commish uses Ex games to test. Or at least there was some base stealing the last time I watched an exhibition game.
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