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TCK · Expert Joined: 27 Oct 2002 Location: Texas Forum ID: 105

Commish I been looking at some of the 900 ID teams and it is same with other low ID #'s they are born late and there # throws it off. I am sure alot of people with low ID #'s 10k down, Would like the advantage a low ID # gives. Example, I have team 4401 yet I am placed between 120k teams a 4k team with 120k teams just not right. Can we change this? =/

GunnerDD · Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2002 6:22 pm Post subject: tck

complete sentences work wonders, silly!

nmshooter · Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2002 6:28 pm Post subject:

Yeah, I have to agree.....I dont know what you are talking about. Can you clarify.
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tonyd · Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2002 6:39 pm Post subject:

im not sure, im probably wrong but i think he means, like for example my signature, my teams ids are 117034 and 133779, if u click one of the links, its says at the end of url,team id=88965 or something like that when their id is 117034. if u look at some of the low id teams. it says they were born like 2 days ago for example and their team id is like 3304, but when u look at their url it says like team id 101934.

Scarycat · Member Joined: 24 Oct 2002 Forum ID: 43

I think he means his pro league ranking. With the same number of wins, his team 4401 is placed between 2 120k+ teams. He thinks he should rank higher than the 120k+ teams.

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C_J · Veteran Joined: 24 Oct 2002 Forum ID: 6

I kinda think this should go to the Bugs and Complaints forum. Wink

TCK · Expert Joined: 27 Oct 2002 Location: Texas Forum ID: 105

Blah on you gunner I was trying to watch tv and think you know how hard that is. Evil or Very Mad

Any ways, Yes I ment the PL ranking when the new 900 ID teams get up to PL there going to be ranked down there with like 130-140k teams. I am pretty sure alot of people wanted the 900 ID team for fact it has a low ID #. What good is a low ID # if your stuck with 120k+ teams? And CJ how commish gona read this if you moved it. Mad

Any ways think anyone can give an opinion on this?

Newbies · Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2002 8:42 am Post subject: Re: Blah

Scarycat · Member Joined: 24 Oct 2002 Forum ID: 43

Sometimes it is just luck, like a 9* losing to a 7*.
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C_J · Veteran Joined: 24 Oct 2002 Forum ID: 6

Tim's Dodgers · Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2002 1:16 pm Post subject: Looks like it has changed to me.

I think the sort criteria for the Pro Leagues needs to be posted again. I think it was posted at the time it was changed but I can't find it.

The way I thought it was supposed to be is:

At the end of the previous season all teams, moving up or down a league, were sorted lowest ID to highest ID. Top to bottom.
If you stay in the league you fall in where you finished for the next season.
If, at the end of the current season, several teams have the same number of wins:
1. The teams that moved down from last season have the advantage over lower id teams that moved down with them, and all other teams.
2. The team that stayed in the same league have advantage over teams they placed higher than last season in the current league, and all teams that moved up.
3. The teams that moved up from last season have the advantage over only lower ID teams that moved up with them.

This is not what it looks like is going on now. Could we please have it explained again if I am wrong. Or looked into if I am right.

Tim...

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Commissioner · Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2002 3:29 pm Post subject: PL sorting

- You sort by you Win/Loss %

- Ties in W/L% are broken by the POSITION you had LAST season.

- IF two teams who are tie, both came up, or down from another league level, then the Owner ID is used to resolve a tie.

In that last instance the 900 teams do have the advantage.

Is it not working this way? Maybe we have a bug!?
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Tim's Dodgers · Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2002 3:42 pm Post subject: Re: PL sorting

Commissioner · Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2002 4:09 pm Post subject: clarity

Sorry Tim, i was trying to be short and clear and I missed something:

When teams come up or down from another league level, AND THEIR W/L is tie, THEN the id is used.

and as you will see that is how it worked out in the case of 4401

Sorry I left out that critical point the last time
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JD_Titans · Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2002 4:55 pm Post subject: Re: clarity

Newbies · Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2002 8:08 pm Post subject: Re: clarity

Eddiez Eaglez · Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2002 1:02 am Post subject: !!!

but thats not really fair

if u buy a team at the start of smallball u are essentially advantaged in PL forever

TheBonner · Pro Joined: 24 Oct 2002 Location: Denver, CO Forum ID: 48

It may not be fair, but how else is it going to work???...If you have a high ID that just gives you more incentive to BEAT as many teams as you can...beside, seniority should count for something (I have two very high ID's so I'm not really being defensive)...The only tie-breaking aspect that I would change is in the 1st league (please correct me if this is already the case)...Since everyone plays each other twice the tie breaker after W/L should be head-to-head W/L, then head-to-head runs scored...just a suggestion

JD_Titans · Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2002 6:55 am Post subject:

I'm not worried about fairness. Someone will have an advantage no matter how its done.

I also don't really care about the reborn teams. I don't know of any promises that were made to the owners of the reborn teams.

I do know that the 900 Club teams were advertised as "low ID" teams. They are not acting like that now. You can see the same evidence of that on the Top 100 lists.
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