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Commissioner Forum Administrator


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Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2002 10:56 am Post subject:
What do we need for the release of Football? |
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Please, list what you think we NEED before we could release SmallBall Soccer.
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C_J Veteran

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Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2002 11:12 am Post subject:
Re: What do we need for the release of Football? |
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| Commissioner wrote: | Please, list what you think we NEED before we could release SmallBall Soccer.
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You need some features that are similar to DT....
A clipboard with player scheduling and auto training is needed badly.
It would also be nice to toss the dedicated and zone training and combine them. That way, you could put guys in the dribble zone or kick while you work with others doing dedicated training for interception and reaction etc...
There should be a way to train all skills listed.
Keeper stats would be huge!
Player stats in game and training like BB...
AI is much better, but I would like to see keepers be more aggressive and go further out on the box for saves. If no one is close and the ball rolls in the box, then the keeper should come out for it. This would make it more important to keep your keeper's running skills up. If he is too slow, then maybe he gets out of position and gets beat every now and then?
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C_J Veteran

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Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2002 11:18 am Post subject:
Another thing... |
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When AI was adjusted to add offsides, I think they went too far when attempting to reduce the breakaways. If a guy has his man beat and he's onsides, then they should drive it to the goal and take a shot. Too many times the player gets a step and about the time he gets seperation and the other player gets covered, he stops and passes the ball to the guy that is covered! Doesn't make sense.  |
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nmshooter Veteran

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Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2002 5:06 pm Post subject:
Re: Another thing... |
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| C_J wrote: | When AI was adjusted to add offsides, I think they went too far when attempting to reduce the breakaways. If a guy has his man beat and he's onsides, then they should drive it to the goal and take a shot. Too many times the player gets a step and about the time he gets seperation and the other player gets covered, he stops and passes the ball to the guy that is covered! Doesn't make sense.  |
I agree, that was one of the things I mentioned on the football boards once. You know, thats where we used to talk about football. Its a ghost board now. I went in the other day and a tumbleweed rolled across the field pic that commish has up. _________________ "Oderint dum metuant" |
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C_J Veteran

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Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2002 6:16 pm Post subject:
Re: Another thing... |
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I went in the other day and a tumbleweed rolled across the field pic that commish has up.[/quote]
I think I saw that same tumbleweed, but it rolled over geezer!  |
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nmshooter Veteran

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Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2002 6:34 pm Post subject:
Re: Another thing... |
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| C_J wrote: | | I went in the other day and a tumbleweed rolled across the field pic that commish has up. |
I think I saw that same tumbleweed, but it rolled over geezer! [/quote]
I thought that was your team doing the rolling. Are you saying it was a tumbleweed now? _________________ "Oderint dum metuant" |
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C_J Veteran

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Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2002 7:07 pm Post subject:
Re: Another thing... |
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I thought that was your team doing the rolling. Are you saying it was a tumbleweed now?[/quote]
I don't have a team......I have a DYNASTY
Good Ole Boys
The Weather Men
Eradicators!!!!
Plus the B teams in the stable that don't cut mustard in my camp, but I'll keep them around to dominate Football tourneys at SBL's in the future. You know, that's what we should do with SBL and his dumarse...we should get all the good teams to sign up for his tourneys and lock it out!  |
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nmshooter Veteran

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Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2002 7:09 pm Post subject:
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Speaking of SBL, hes in tight wads chat right now cussing up a storm at ladyhwk. _________________ "Oderint dum metuant" |
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Gamer Veteran


Joined: 24 Oct 2002
Location: Central FL Forum ID: 37
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Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2002 8:37 pm Post subject:
My GOOOOOOOOAAAALLLLLLL idea!! |
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you know the announcer on TV that goes"GGGGGOOOOOOAAALLLLLLLLL!!!!!" when someone scores!!  |
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moonchild Veteran


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Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2002 1:35 pm Post subject:
Football Musts |
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Football Musts for the game to worked would be:
i) A Dribble Area
ii) Heading Area
iii) Shooting Area - For Free Kicks and Shoots
iv) Spot Kick Practice Area
v) Running Track - Same As the one in Baseball DT but make it free.
vi) Skill Area - Like Overhead Kicks and Nut Megs aswell as others.
vii) Control Area - Bringing the Ball down and Turning.
viii) A change on Scoreboard - It is Ist and 2nd HALF not period.
iv) Power Shoots - Volleys and Punt Outs (Keepers Pnut Outs)
v) Throwing Area - Keepers Need To Throw Well.
These are musts well most are.[/u] |
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Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2002 1:41 pm Post subject:
Re: Football Musts |
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| moonchild wrote: | Football Musts for the game to worked would be:
i) A Dribble Area
ii) Heading Area
iii) Shooting Area - For Free Kicks and Shoots
iv) Spot Kick Practice Area
v) Running Track - Same As the one in Baseball DT but make it free.
vi) Skill Area - Like Overhead Kicks and Nut Megs aswell as others.
vii) Control Area - Bringing the Ball down and Turning.
viii) A change on Scoreboard - It is Ist and 2nd HALF not period.
iv) Power Shoots - Volleys and Punt Outs (Keepers Pnut Outs)
v) Throwing Area - Keepers Need To Throw Well.
These are musts well most are.[/u] |
I think he was asking those of us who are testing the game.  |
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moonchild Veteran


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Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2002 1:44 pm Post subject:
I Know |
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| Yes i do know that i'm not a moron however i just wanted to let you know what i think any football game like this needs to be successful. Any Problems With That? |
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C_J Veteran

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Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2002 1:48 pm Post subject:
Re: I Know |
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| moonchild wrote: | | Yes i do know that i'm not a moron however i just wanted to let you know what i think any football game like this needs to be successful. Any Problems With That? |
I got problems with the attitude. No need for it. Poof!! You have left my world!  |
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moonchild Veteran


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Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2002 1:49 pm Post subject:
Letting you know |
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Sorry if i came across wrong but i was just letting you know what i thought the game needed.
P.S. I ain't no poof. |
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C_J Veteran

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Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2002 1:54 pm Post subject:
Re: Letting you know |
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| moonchild wrote: | Sorry if i came across wrong but i was just letting you know what i thought the game needed.
P.S. I ain't no poof. |
NP I just think your misinterpreted the intention of Commish's post. Although the general public has access to this forum, it's intention is for those alpha testing, so I interpreted his post to mean that he wanted input from those of us that have actually played the game in it's current state. Most of the stuff you listed is already there in some form or fashion. |
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moonchild Veteran


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Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2002 1:55 pm Post subject:
Ok then |
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No Sweat, Good to see SB working hard.
Peace Out  |
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C_J Veteran

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Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2002 3:54 pm Post subject:
Re: Letting you know |
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[quote="C_J"] | moonchild wrote: | Sorry if i came across wrong but i was just letting you know what i thought the game needed.
P.S. I ain't no poof. |
Sooooooooooooo
Moonchild is Fitzy? LOL...I understand why u were confused now. Moron |
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Newbies Veteran


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Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2002 4:02 pm Post subject:
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| C_J wrote: |
Moonchild is Fitzy? LOL...I understand why u were confused now. Moron |
You are slipping C_J ! Need to put more fuel in the moron detector!!  |
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moonchild Veteran


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Posted: Sat Oct 26, 2002 4:58 am Post subject:
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yes CJ it's fitz. Now know as Moonchild how did you know.
Also why call me a morn when i have said nothing against you in about a month. I would like to keep it that way. I am no longer the moron i once was. |
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Posted: Sat Oct 26, 2002 5:28 am Post subject:
Fitzy |
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| moonchild wrote: | yes CJ it's fitz. Now know as Moonchild how did you know.
Also why call me a morn when i have said nothing against you in about a month. I would like to keep it that way. I am no longer the moron i once was. |
I will give you the benefit of the doubt on that one. Therefore....I will cease fire with the flamethrower until such time as I deem necessary.  |
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tonyd Member

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Posted: Sat Oct 26, 2002 10:48 am Post subject:
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| moonchild wrote: | yes CJ it's fitz. Now know as Moonchild how did you know.
Also why call me a morn when i have said nothing against you in about a month. I would like to keep it that way. I am no longer the moron i once was. |
your email says fitz... |
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BTB Veteran


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Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2002 8:21 am Post subject:
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Still areas that need improvement the training zones/skills we can train in from my original posts ans e-mails. ESPECIALLY the GOALIES!!
1. Training in just more than Jump Skill, catch???????
2. Like the Pitcher in BB, the other skills that the goalie is not trained in should not effect the overall team * rating, why the hell do I care if he has drive and dribbling skill??
3. Additional skill areas to train other skills listed on the sort list and a more defined training area for reaction skill.
4. Back to this again, there are a lot of skills to train and I don't feel that the skill loss is slow enough for the amount of TP given to keep these teams trained at the level that they need to be. This could be debated but when I train the guy and he goes from yellow to brown after 2 days of the same training because I trained him in another area one day that the skill loss is reduced........too much rambling there!
5. With Cj on the clip board issue and better trainer needed!
6. Thanksgiving release??? Good Luck!! I think it can be done but there is a lot of work to go! _________________
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Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2002 8:34 am Post subject:
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[quote="BTB"]Still areas that need improvement the training zones/skills we can train in from my original posts ans e-mails. ESPECIALLY the GOALIES!!
2. Like the Pitcher in BB, the other skills that the goalie is not trained in should not effect the overall team * rating, why the hell do I care if he has drive and dribbling skill??
Those other skills factor into the rating of your team? No wonder I can't get 8*. |
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Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2002 10:16 pm Post subject:
oh boy |
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| commish~ what you need is to let me get in on this testing, email is craigmer@hotmail.com. |
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Scarycat Member


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Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2002 3:03 am Post subject:
Things related to Football (Soccer) |
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1. Goalkeeping zone - for goalie to practice saving balls.
2. Defensive training zone - for players to practice tackling,marking and other defensive skills.
3. Passing zone - let players practice passing skills.
4. Offensive zone - let players practice shooting and offensive skills.
5. Set piece zone - let players practice corner kicks, free kicks and penalties.
Each player must have the following skill fields -
1. Goalkeeping
2. Tackling
3. Passing
4. Marking
5. Set piece
6. Shooting
7. Leadership (Every football team has a Captain) |
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Scarycat Member


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Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2002 8:06 am Post subject:
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I think the best is to have 22 players in a team. That way u can the possibles play the probables, and change tactics as u train. U can even have the owner play with the asst trainer to fine tune the team.
There should also be a star player in the team, the best player in the team gets a star in his stats.
There should also have a Captain indicator to highlight the captain. |
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Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2002 9:57 am Post subject:
Re: oh boy |
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| craigmer wrote: | | commish~ what you need is to let me get in on this testing, email is craigmer@hotmail.com. |
Oh yea! That's exactly what smallball needs. Don't let the dripping sarcasm go unnoticed.  |
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Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2002 9:59 am Post subject:
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| Scarycat wrote: | I think the best is to have 22 players in a team. That way u can the possibles play the probables, and change tactics as u train. U can even have the owner play with the asst trainer to fine tune the team.
There should also be a star player in the team, the best player in the team gets a star in his stats.
There should also have a Captain indicator to highlight the captain. |
22 players would make for a nightmare to keep up with training. This will have to be a pared down version of reality just like BB. There's on 12 on BB and normally 18 or more on a real team. |
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Scarycat Member


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Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2002 12:01 pm Post subject:
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| 16 players then, 11 first team players + 5 substitutes. |
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nmshooter Veteran

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Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2002 1:39 pm Post subject:
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| Scarycat wrote: | | 16 players then, 11 first team players + 5 substitutes. |
Its currently set at 11 first team and 4 subs. _________________ "Oderint dum metuant" |
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Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2002 5:02 pm Post subject:
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| Scarycat wrote: | | 16 players then, 11 first team players + 5 substitutes. |
There's currently 15 |
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Greekie Pro


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Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2002 3:13 am Post subject:
here i am!! |
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u need to display the players stats in the trainer & in the game!
u definetely need fouls!(could be great to have a player like david beckham!)
u need to work on offsides some huge offsides are not shown
someone else said this but i'll post it again u need a form for us to be able to chance our teams formation duringa game according to the current result.
the abilty to make subsistisions during a game would be great!
PLEASE tell me what makes a good goalie????where i come from a good goalie is the one who is training in catching all the time this is the case here so please xplaain what affects a goalie!
thank you. [/list] |
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TheBonner Pro


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Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2002 3:24 am Post subject:
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| greek wrote: | ...u need a form for us to be able to chance our teams formation duringa game according to the current result.
the abilty to make subsistisions during a game would be great!...[/list] |
The game is rendered (played out) before you even get a chance to watch it...So it would be impossible to change lineups etc. while watching it...You can't change something that has already happened |
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Greekie Pro


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Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2002 5:39 am Post subject:
i know |
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i know its already being played i was talking about a form in the trainer to say for example "if the teams is down by 3 goals change the formation to 3-3-4 or if the team is winning by 2 change it too 4-5-1 although i don't know if this is possible.
P.S how i place an avatar in my name??i don't know any url for them is anyone knows any??
thx |
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Greekie Pro


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Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2002 5:41 am Post subject:
oh! |
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| sorry for the double post! |
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Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2002 7:56 am Post subject:
Re: i know |
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| greek wrote: | i know its already being played i was talking about a form in the trainer to say for example "if the teams is down by 3 goals change the formation to 3-3-4 or if the team is winning by 2 change it too 4-5-1 although i don't know if this is possible.
P.S how i place an avatar in my name??i don't know any url for them is anyone knows any??
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greek to place an avatar
1. i see that you put the [url] tags in your avatar box
2. take those out and it should work!
BTW, Commish, I think the positions should be added to team pages! |
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Greekie Pro


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Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2002 8:34 am Post subject:
thx gamerjt! |
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it worked!! _________________ Baseball
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Football
Panathinaikos ID:6719
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