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Jaybird
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 Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2002 8:36 am Post subject:
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 hello all. if the goalie was able to come out of his box more, wouldnt more goals be scored? anyone could use a pass to someone else who is covered so that they can score if the goalie was able to come out, although i do think they should be more aggresive. and 2 dp u think thatu should make a create a play station? u could put 3 on 3 and set up a pass like a wall pass which is created when u use 3 l to r and one ahead. or a triangle or something like that. it would be cool. thats all for now    |
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nmshooter
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| Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2002 8:47 am Post subject:
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| Jaybird wrote: | | if the goalie was able to come out of his box more, wouldnt more goals be scored? anyone could use a pass to someone else who is covered so that they can score if the goalie was able to come out |
Well I can try to explain why the thought is that the goalie should come out more, at least from my point of view.
Currently the goalie does not come out at all or very little. Sometimes an errant pass or kick on goal comes within a few feet of the goalie yet he will not go out for it. What happens is your opponent and you will run to the ball and fight over it, often you may lose and they guy being so close to your goalie has an easy goal. This all could be avoided if the goalie would step a few feet forward and just cover the ball.
This is very similar to the AI in smallball baseball where the batter hits just beyond the ss, 2nd or 1st basemen and instead of one of them running to pick up the ball they will stand still and one of your outfielders will come running all the way in to pick up a ball laying in the in-field.
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Jaybird
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| Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2002 8:51 am Post subject:
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| Thats just messed up. They cant change that? |
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nmshooter
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| Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2002 8:52 am Post subject:
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| Jaybird wrote: | | Thats just messed up. They cant change that? |
Im sure they are working on it. Remember its still in Alpha.
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Geezer
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| Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2002 9:00 am Post subject:
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| You just reminded me, this was one of the things that i was planning on suggesting. I also experience the goalie ignoring the ball 1 foot away from him even when 3 attackers are thundering towards it.. can be very frustrating. |
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nmshooter
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| Geezer wrote: | | You just reminded me, this was one of the things that i was planning on suggesting. I also experience the goalie ignoring the ball 1 foot away from him even when 3 attackers are thundering towards it.. can be very frustrating. |
Yeah it drives me nuts and I usually come out on the bad end of the play.
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Jaybird
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| Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2002 9:03 am Post subject:
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| suppose it is right in front of him and didnt anyone remember the other thing tht i said |
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nmshooter
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| Jaybird wrote: | | suppose it is right in front of him and didnt anyone remember the other thing tht i said |
Your second suggestions sounds nice but I dont see it happening, seems quite complicated to me for this game from a programming aspect.
It has been suggested during alpha teasing that there be some sort of query operation to perform formation changes. Say for instance you were down by a goal with a few minutes left in the game, your team would automatically go into a more offensive mode depending on how you had your team setup in the trainer.
Remember all these games are rendered and played while you see the numbers changing on your screen when starting. What you see on the screen although it says live is not really, its just a graphical representation of what has already happened while rendering. My point? You cant have it do any of those things live while you watch, it has to be pre-programmed to happen.
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Geezer
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Yes it can cause you to come out bad at the end of a game.
I have also made this point before on one of the trial boards i think. Indeed as you say the game is rendered fully prior to watching which is why you can disconnect from the net and still carry on watching a game. So naturally formation changing manually is impossible. |
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