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DarkElf · Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2002 10:47 pm Post subject: Pitching and home runs

First, I'd like to extend a warm greeting to all SmallBallers. I've been playing since April and have a pretty decent 9* team, but this is my first post.

What can you do in training (DT) to minimize the number of home runs your pitcher gives up. Max out pitching? Max out throwing? Is there any truth to the thinking that the harder you throw, the more homers you will give up (my empirical data doesn't seem to support this)? I've even heard theories that a better defense will actually affect the number of home runs your pitcher gives up (this makes no sense to me).

I've heard differing (and often contradictory) theories on how to minimize homers and am curious what the long time smallballers think.

(switching to Fox or Brickyard is not the answer I'm looking for Wink

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Thanks in advance.

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Flingz · Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2002 11:01 pm Post subject:

Hey darkelf, thats a great team you got there, I have been seeing them around since I started. I started around the same time as you and I have gotten some great advice over the months. As for pitching and how to not give up as many runs. Whenever I ask this question people tell me to simply beef up my offense so I score more than the other team. I think that no matter who you have on the mound he's not gonna pitch shutout consistently in this game. I keep my pitcher on my best team around 105mph and he seems to do ok. I have had him up to 115mph also and he did the same at both speeds. I have a theory that it just depends on his overall skill and the speed isn't really that important. But I think you need a powerful offense to win at this game and I will take the advice I have gotten and continue to try and outscore my opponents.
ok im done lol

dancinns · Member Joined: 29 Oct 2002 Location: CA Forum ID: 137

Pitching skill has something to do with the amount of homers your team will give up. I'm just guessing this because at the beginning of this season before the Pro Leagues started I randomly put in a player at pitcher who had little to no pitching skill. Thusly, I got hammered.

I think "maxing out" your pitcher won't cut down on homers but rather cut down on the number of singles, doubles and triples. Homers are a given in this game, which is a shame since it should be a bit more realistic. I've yet to make any correlation between pitching speed and homers given up.

Good thread, DarkElf, maybe someone else who keeps track of their stats with a spreadsheet will chime in on this. Very Happy

nmshooter · Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2002 12:41 am Post subject:

Hi and welcome,

I dont know about all the max stuff as I have 1 low 9* team and several 8's but I did a test a few weeks ago just to see how things would go. I played someone who is a 9 star and is in the top 10 of the 9 stars. I played him 6 times. Here is what some of the results were.

Best pitcher Averages 110-111 maxes at 115
2 games
He beat me both times scoring a combined 27 runs with 16 HR's in the 2 games.

2nd Pitcher Averages 105-106 maxes at 110
2 games - He beat me but scored less than 15 runs with only 5 hr's

Last 2 games I took the pitcher who was rated 6th n pitch skill and only threw 39 mph and played him.

results
He beat me 5-4 in 1 game - no hr's
and I beat him the 2nd game and again he had no hr's

Now I dont know what all that says, there could have been many factors involved but I firmly believe the faster your pitcher throws is not necessarily better.
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Eddiez Eaglez · Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2002 12:50 am Post subject: interesting

that is really weird
a guy who pitches 39 gives up 2 HR in 2 games
a guy who pitches up to 115 gives up 16 in 1 game

maybe speed is bad

nmshooter · Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2002 12:55 am Post subject: Re: interesting

DarkElf · Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2002 1:15 am Post subject:

solipsta · Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2002 7:15 am Post subject:

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Anyways DarkElf, I tried that experiment that Nmshooter said where you put in a 39mph pitcher with YOUR team and got slaughered with like a homer an inning. I think that high pitch speed will skill someone with low bat skill but once you get into the 9* and above, it really doesn't matter. You just go with the guy that has the best pitch skill and that's it.

Cheers
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Tight_Wads · Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2002 7:37 am Post subject: Re: Pitching and home runs

dancinns · Member Joined: 29 Oct 2002 Location: CA Forum ID: 137

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i dunno about HRs but from the games that my team plays.. throw skill for pitchers doesn't really matter.. and i've heard that pitchers who maxed out at 111/112, usually throws around 108~110 and that any pitch between 105~110 is very HR friendly..