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[iSo]

I have been watching team 39913 very closely this past season to see if they would advance to 1st league, this team is owned by my good pal psycho... anyway, he didnt make it and he is stuck in 2nd once again because he finished 5th place and the top 4 advance... i stayed up until 4am last night to see if team 1076 played team 1001, ....1076 never played there game and 1001 got there 12th win and advanced to 1st league... ok big deal right 1001 "Half Moon Bay" proabably would have won, but the point i am trying to make is that i know 1001 belongs to a smallball worker but i thought 1076 did too, and i think that is kinda wierd how 1076 played all there games except team 1001, if they played there game and 1001 lost, psycho would have advanced... again i could be wrong, but if there both owned by smallball workers then i think that is a little fishy!

please smallball, correct me if i am wrong, i really hope i am!

bye the way psycho, dont be mad that i posted this without telling you... just wanted to get it out!

[iSo]

i just noticed breakdown posted the same thing... so sorry for making this thread, i think that is a bunch of crap though!

[Meat]

If you don't play all your Pro games you should be kicked out of Pro League just like Zzzing out. This bull crap about running outta time to play is just that ..... crap. Leads to too many problems and accusations, just make everyone play all their Pro games or buh bye! There were a ton of games not played in 3rd League, I am not sure if any affected the outcome of 3rd, but I don't understand not playing all your games!

[Commissioner]

sorry neither person works for smallball. AND they are honorable people and never cheated. they or I have nothing to prove to you.


Suspicion is a two-way mirror


Suspicion is simply not enough and finger pointing with nothing else but supicion is weak. Sorry I don't know how else to say it.

Meat, your rule suggestion won't work and would generate bad feelings.

Don't play you lose is good and has worked for a long time.


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[solipsta]

[iSo]

this isnt about who plays what or not, i confess sometimes i havent played mine bcuz i forgot... like 60685... i didnt play like 7 games...dont know what i was thinking... but come on... one is a member of smallball, green team whatever and the other is a good friend, if "Damage" "me and psycho" did this we would be gone in a second... this is a bunch of sh*t in my opinion!

[Commissioner]

So you feel that its definate that a game was thrown?

I just don't believe it. If you feel that people associated with AndNow cheat then you really have no hope of feeling comfortable here. You do realize its just a game and most people really wouldn't go this far to cheat at smallball. In anycase it is in the rules that you cannot intentionally throw games - its my call, and maybe if it were you and psycho I would take a closer look. But like the umpire, its my call, not yours.

BTW, I am open for discussion about rule changes and additions however, if we set out to make rules to avoid all criminal behavior we may destroy the fun of the game. But I'm all ears for any ideas that could make you feel safer.
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[Mudville]

If you can't prove anything, don't make accusations.
If Psycho didn't like it, then he should have posted something.
Reminds me of Ramblers always trying to justify HT.
You are trying to start s*it where none exists.
This isn't your concern,is it?
That the trouble with these "Clans", you get nonsense like this.
Frankly after Psychos post about how you should gang up on XFiles, I think it was, I'm thrilled he didn't make it.
If you have a beef about something that happened to your team, fine.
You're just appearing to be Pyschos flunky after this post.
Maybe its just a return of Psychos bad Karma he's been putting up on these boards. I'm glad he didn't make it. Maybe Druids thot the same thing. Not a thing you can do about it.
Maybe that "666" c rap bit him on the a ss. HAHAHAHA

You and your cronies can feel free to beat up on Mudville, again, I really don't care. It's still just a game, nothing more.

[Mannheim Dragons]

I don't think the game was thrown, however how about this as a solution to avoid these problems once and for all:
At the end of a season if a team hasn't played it's PL games the games are initiated automatically, except if the team hasn't initiated any games at all, in which case it would still Zzz out at the end of the season.

Should be pretty easy to implement and even though it would not get rid of all doubts about throwing games it would definitely help.

[iSo]

well, i cant say nothing, otherwise ill get "banned"..so i have no more views!

[timotheos]

how could you forget about your games or not have enough time to play them, well look at how many big league games u play... over 100 and how many pro league games do u have?.. like 10 or something

[cornercoach]

Neener Beaners was bumped from 1st league for same reason an unplayed game that allowed a team to gain a free win and stay in first league. Some thing needs to be done at end of season like auto game initiation so games are played out.......just my opinion!

[timotheos]

[DASTECH]

i could be wrong, but if there both owned by smallball workers then i think that is a little fishy!

please smallball, correct me if i am wrong, i really hope i am!

Nope,your right something is fishy!
But thats cause they are right on the coast.
Those dam fish are jumping & flip floping all around them, stinking up the place!!

[Mudville]

[Mannheim Dragons]

[SmallBallLeagueNET]

Auto iniate is one consideration, but it does not address the heart of the problem and therefore - does not solve the problem...

think of this
you guys think the season take a long to time to close and reset now - what would happen if 100 teams left 5 games unplayed. The server would have to process 500 games before the season can close. if i were SB, i would not elect this route - server activitiy would kill them at season close!

To solve the problem, you have to develop a punishment that is severe enough to motivate people to play ALL of their games - yet - "fun" enough to maintain the spirit of the game.

I recommend a LOSS OF TP - 1 day for each game unplayed. Therefore, if you leave 3 games unplayed - you lose 3 days of TP.

[Mannheim Dragons]

First of all auto-initiate would only be needed in the 4 upper leagues, because below these so many games are left unplayed that one game alone simply doesn't matter.

Second a one day TP loss per unplayed game for a first offense is a pretty hefty penalty, espeicially since a team that has left several games unplayed propably had a good reason for that because leaving several games unplayed usually won't just one team and thus wouldn't be done to cheat.

[Slicer]

I think that if you dont play pl games then the next season you should be punished the same way i.e. if u dont play 1 game then next season there should be a lock on 1 team that you cant play like the weakest team on your pl list. This would really p!$$ the person off who didnt play there pl game.

[iSo]

one more reply, just for the morons "nymphos"... a game not being initiated could mean it was thrown... and druid isnt the one who didnt play, it was 1076, he didnt play the druids....so druids got the win.. a "free" one, the exact amount he needed to get to 1st league...ridulous to you maybe because you cant read right... try again!

[DASTECH]

[Pete1]

This is a bunch of crap! I really don't understand why threads like this get posted.

First of all just because someone is part of the "Green Team" does not mean that when they get to the higher leagues they are cheating. Maybe just maybe they are good trainers and they deserve to be where they are. People pulled this trash when XFiles got to the fist league as well.

Second if someone did not initiate a PL game against Druids oh well. It happens. Quit whinning! Each season I get at least one PL game that is not initiated against me. Hell I count on it.

I am getting tired of poor sports in this game slinging accusations just because things didn't go the way they wanted. Especially unfounded accusations. If you can't prove what you think then keep it to yourself. Grow up! Not everyone is a cheater.

[The_Safo]

Come on, you people are trying to regulate every part of this game . QT, clans, games not played, 2-day pies, lefties, etc... all bring complaints and accusations. Live with the game and it's good points and faults. So many of you are so afraid someone else may get an advantage that you miss the point. Have fun, try hard, look for a flaw or an edge and use it. That is how baseball is played.

OR

Make penealties for unliked behavior.
One could be:Don't play all your PL games-loses AND a drop to next lower league.

Be in a clan-advance only as high as you lowest/weakest member.

Use a QT-spend your own hard earned money

Switch to lefties-suffer the built in penalties and the embrassment of being odd

I'm sure you all can think of other good penalties for everything imaginable.
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[craigmer]

ok. here is my 2 cents~ i think that this is also unfair to psychos or whoever was affected by this. I remember exactly when rambler and ht pulled this off and they were automatically guilty, i dont see what is any different here?I would like to hear from zipit or druids cuz i say they are guilty until proved innocent. Isolated i am 100% behind you. Also nymphos in the pro league rules it states that you cant throw a game. Im not calling druids or zipit cheaters but right now they are not even pleading their case,so...OFF WITH THEIR HEADS!!

[Mannheim Dragons]

[craigmer]

answer me this~ were ht and rambler inncoent until proven guilty? hell no they didnt even get a chance to try and explain and they are getting blamed. i think it should be the exact same for these 2,especially if they dont defend their case.

[Flingz]

smallball is based outta the good ole USA where everyone is innocent until proven guilty and in the case of ht and rambler, they were guilty so whats the deal?

[C_J]

[craigmer]

you people!!! why do you gotta kiss the green team's butt so much?

[C_J]