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Some help analyzing home run hitters
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 26, 2002 9:19 pm    Post subject: Some help analyzing home run hitters
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I want you to look at Caigmer and Gio, and see if this makes sense

Thats the sorted, batting list

Craigmer




Gio




So Gio is above in all skills except for 1, but now look at the homerun difference

23 homers out of 33 games
39 homers out of 33 games

Even though Gio is above on the Sorted bat list, and above craig in 2 out of 3 skills, craigmer still has hit 16 more homers.

Can anyone try to explain this to me?

Gio has less swing skill than craig, does swing skill make the home run hitter difference?


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 26, 2002 9:24 pm    Post subject:
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From my experience Swing Skill makes all the difference.
The reason simply being that a player with a lower swing skill and a slightly higher Power Skill will see some of his potential HRs turn into long fouls.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 26, 2002 9:27 pm    Post subject:
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Mannheim Dragons wrote:
From my experience Swing Skill makes all the difference.
The reason simply being that a player with a lower swing skill and a slightly higher Power Skill will see some of his potential HRs turn into long fouls.

That is what it seems to me too. So, I think that would be the reason.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 26, 2002 9:33 pm    Post subject:
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batting order may be a factor too
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 26, 2002 10:37 pm    Post subject:
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Seems to me like it could be a combination of swing skill and batting order possibly?
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 26, 2002 11:36 pm    Post subject:
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maby one player is a natural

my batter, diddy is 2nd to last and last on all batting skill orders but he hits the ball every time!!
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 27, 2002 12:02 am    Post subject:
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Thats Smallball for you!!
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yup..... cus like we say.... "small ball isnt like atha base ball sims" and this just shows u why Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 27, 2002 12:32 am    Post subject:
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First, I agree with MDragon's idea, lower skill could be the reason for the difference. But... that might not be the reason for Rambler's conundrum.

Rambler, please try to understand the meaning of the next sentence:


Higher skills increase the odds of hits.


This means a player with higher contact odds could STILL hit less than a player with lower contact odds. Your two players are very close in hitting skills. Odds, rambler, means the chances of something happening. The game is not deterministic. Anything can happen. By training your player you INCREASE the chances that they do well. you see?

I suggest you continue your research with that in mind.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 27, 2002 12:37 am    Post subject:
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yeh, commish is right....... if u roll a 6sided dice 60times u wont get #6 side 10 times... u might not even get #6 side showing up on the dice at all


thanx, just doin my best to confuzzle ya'll
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 27, 2002 12:47 am    Post subject:
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Mood??
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 27, 2002 12:50 am    Post subject:
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dastech, dont be a hold out (refuring to ur avatar)
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 27, 2002 8:05 am    Post subject:
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Ram I don't have a clue what to tell you except this, I have 3 guys on various teams that every season lead their teams in avg and HR's. Funny part is season after season they are at the bottom of contact list and swing skill. Not the highest on the power list either, I have contact batted these guys to death and benched them and they never go above 60% contact and swing skill gains are lost the next day when I open up the trainer, yet they produce and I have learned to accept it.

But like you I can't understand why I have a guy that is batting in contact at/above 95% contact, batting skill gains are minimal, power cage belting the ball at 500' every swing yet bats at .350 avg. and in 30 games hits 12 HR, and every once in a while they have a great season. I don't care where I put them in the batting order nothing changes!!

You figure this out and I will be amazed! I just think they perform as they do and anything can happen with anyone of them at any given time without an explanation.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 27, 2002 8:52 am    Post subject:
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Wow this is the 1st time I can understand what tim writes !!
Smile Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 27, 2002 9:02 am    Post subject:
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Scarycat wrote:
Wow this is the 1st time I can understand what tim writes !!
Smile Very Happy


Kind of scary isn't it?
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 27, 2002 9:28 am    Post subject: Allright then
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I guess there is still a lot more to learn about smallball

Im gonna experiment with a few other things, and see how they effect homeruns
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