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For all of you that have seen the sequel (and I know many of you have now) I have created a topic in which you can discuss what the HELL is going on in the Matrix. For any of you that have questions pertaining to the sequels, come here. I am sure someone here can answer your question. And if they won't, then I will try to help. I have already seen the movie twice, and will try to help you with what parts you don't understand about it. (i.e. Who is that "kid" that Neo saved? ; What was up with that ending, man? ; etc.)

This topic will also discuss what may come to be of the The Matrix Revolutions, the third, and final sequel coming out very shortly: November 5th to be exact. IF you have an idea of what might happen, or would like to speculate on what some of the things in Reloaded could mean for Revolutions, then be my guest. Go right ahead and voice what you thing will happen. That is what this topic is for. It is strictly for discuusion on the 2 Matrix sequels out this year. I know that I cannot wait for the movie, or for any question that can hopefully answer for you. Please, if you want to discuss the Matrix, this is the topic to be in.

P.S. Please keep it clean (ie. Not much discussion of the Zion...umm...orgy)

Again, anything pertaining to the sequels (ie. speculation, questions, thoughts, opinions, reviews) should be posted here, and only here. No need to make topics about it. Come here if you please. This should be fun. If no one replies in a bit, I will start the discussion. Remember, there will be spoilers in this topic, so if you don't want to know aout the movie before you see it, this is not the place to go.

Your Matrix Buddy,
Gamer

P.S. If you really feel the need to, or it pertains to the topic, you may discuss bits of the first Matrix and what the connection between the two/three movies may be.

-- The other Matrix topic (seeing how many people are seeing it) I made has nothing to do with this topic, mods...I am not spamming, just having a movie spoilers topic --

Blazer

Gamer · Posted: Thu May 15, 2003 6:04 pm Post subject:

Redsfan, that is a YES. Duh. Now can we get on subject here or not? Mad

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I just saw the movie today. I absolutely loved it. Hate to have to wait till November to see what happens next.

bw2082 · Veteran Joined: 02 Dec 2002 Forum ID: 421

I think that there's like 2 layers to the matrix... 1st is where they hook up and go through the phones etc... basically what was shown in the 1st movie. 2nd layer is Zion and everything humans think is outside the Matrix. Neo realizes this and stopped the sentinels. Agent Smith is a disgruntled program and will save the humans to spite whatever is controlling the Matrix.

DASTECH · Posted: Fri May 16, 2003 12:12 am Post subject: Matrix....the lost episode

These clips were edited

http://media.ebaumsworld.com/index.php?e=matrix.mpg
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solipsta · Posted: Fri May 16, 2003 4:48 pm Post subject:

Just got out of it and my first impressions were....... Neutral

with a tinge of Shocked

and a dash of Surprised

.

I did like it, but the effects didn't have the same affect on me that the first Matrix did. I liked the story of it all and the twist of it all being part of a needed cycle.

Of course the questions are:

1. Who was the boy that Neo saved and what part will he play in the future?
2. Who was the guy trying to kill Neo and why?
3. How did Neo stop the sentinel "outside" of the Matrix?
4. How exactly was Agent Smith freed? Does that mean he lives outside of the Matrix? (could relate to question #2)

Sigh....so many more.....I'll have to see the damn movie again.....
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Gamer · Posted: Fri May 16, 2003 5:29 pm Post subject:

Me too solip, but #4... I think the Agent Smith program was destroyed by Neo in the First movie, but it looks as though someone (dunno who) has restarted his program (I also dunno how exactly the "duplicating" thing came to be about either...hmmmm Neutral

) and "unplugged" him from the Matrix, but I do not know it what way he is "unplugged", but it looks as though someone outside the Matrix is controlling his program/functions. I have no clue if he even lives outside the Matrix, but probably not because he is a "bad" program (as the Oracle states). I dunno about that though.

I'll have to fish around for some answers. Confused

Elway0514 · Posted: Fri May 16, 2003 6:40 pm Post subject:

I saw the movie Thursday night and am seeing it again on Sunday...

I have one question i would like answered by whoever wasn't as confused as i was....

1. Who was the guy in the coma next to Neo at the end???

solipsta · Posted: Fri May 16, 2003 7:06 pm Post subject:

Elway0514 · Posted: Fri May 16, 2003 7:29 pm Post subject:

Oh yea.. now that i think about it that makes sense.. thanks alot now the whole movie makes sense...

Gamer · Posted: Fri May 16, 2003 7:34 pm Post subject:

Elway0514 · Posted: Fri May 16, 2003 7:40 pm Post subject:

Wasn't he the guy that was gonna pick up the phone but then copied by Smith???

Chippy · Posted: Fri May 16, 2003 7:57 pm Post subject:

solipsta · Posted: Fri May 16, 2003 8:12 pm Post subject:

So the guy that got copied by Smith tried to kill Neo....so maybe Smith has not only found a way to replicate himself, but also found a way into reality.

If real people can live in the matrix, what's to say that a program can't live in the real world...
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Gamer · Posted: Fri May 16, 2003 8:13 pm Post subject:

So basically, the guy who wants Neo dead is Agent Smith, just not in the Matrix, correct? I was kinda thinking that anyway, but I do not really pay close attention to details. LOL Laughing

EDIT: I was thinking the same exact thing as solip. He's the program in the Matrix, and the guy trying to kill Neo in the "real" world. Confused

Blazer · Posted: Fri May 16, 2003 8:15 pm Post subject:

solipsta · Posted: Fri May 16, 2003 8:15 pm Post subject:

Feldon · Posted: Fri May 16, 2003 8:52 pm Post subject:

Well, I saw the movie this afternoon. I thought it was great, although the opening sequence didn't blow me away like the first movie. Previewed with it was Terminator 3...that looks awesome.

I think that Agent Smith has indeed become more powerful than the Matrix itself. He has found a way to become "real" by using that other dude as a instrument. What I found weird was why didn't the new agents and Agent Smith have any conflicts. You'd think the Matrix wants him gone.

Also, if that old bearded guy at the end was right (which I don't really know if he is) then all programs, including the Oracle, Agent Smith, that frenchy guy, etc. will all be terminated upon Neo's destruction of the main frame. I think in the next movie more programs will turn on the Matrix and maybe turn to believe in a common existence with Humans.

Finally, is Neo actually a human? He did say he could "feel" the sentinels. And he was bleeding in a battle seen at that house...the frenchy guy made the obvious statement, "See he is only human", which, to me give insight to believing the exact opposite. Not all Matrix programs are bad...the Oracle for example. Maybe Neo is actually the ultimate program. He might actually be a program created by the old bearded guy to be the catalyst on the termination of this Matrix and the father of the new Zion, while Matrix VII runs.

Who knows...

I thought it was a great movie, with a deep story line and great action. Even the little dance party "orgy" that Gamer likes to call it was pretty cool. Very artsy with the heavy music going on. Well done by the Director(s) on that I thought.

solipsta · Posted: Fri May 16, 2003 9:10 pm Post subject:

Chippy · Posted: Fri May 16, 2003 9:16 pm Post subject:

solipsta · Posted: Fri May 16, 2003 9:31 pm Post subject:

Elway0514 · Posted: Sat May 17, 2003 7:58 am Post subject:

if u remember right when Neo flew out of the building Morpheus asked Link what it was and Link said he didn't know but it was moving faster than anything he had ever seen. So Neo could have "created enough pull" to tear the two buildings apart.. or at least this is what i think

Pete1 · Posted: Sat May 17, 2003 8:28 am Post subject:

Ok, when they were talking about going into the building at first, they mentioned that there was a security system that would blow up the building if anyone entered the door to the mainframe. That is why they had to cut the power. When Neo was done talking to the System Architect and went back through the door the power was back on. My thinking is that the building was destroyed so that Neo would not have easy access to the door again after he saved Trinity.

Elway0514 · Posted: Sat May 17, 2003 8:33 am Post subject:

I have a new question that i would like to be answered...

How was the guy that was "guarding" the Oracle able to defend himself against Neo?

Gamer · Posted: Sat May 17, 2003 11:07 am Post subject:

solipsta · Posted: Sat May 17, 2003 11:17 am Post subject:

solipsta · Posted: Sat May 17, 2003 11:18 am Post subject:

turbo42 · Posted: Sat May 17, 2003 11:29 am Post subject:

Gamer · Posted: Sat May 17, 2003 11:33 am Post subject:

Yes, the only reason for the Key Maker 'program' in the Matrix was to help "The One", being Neo, to open the door. Yes, that's right. His only reason for his existance in the Matrix was to open a door. That's why he died after opening the door. Shocked

solipsta · Posted: Sat May 17, 2003 11:49 am Post subject:

Gamer · Posted: Sat May 17, 2003 11:52 am Post subject:

solipsta · Posted: Sat May 17, 2003 11:58 am Post subject:

Gamer · Posted: Sat May 17, 2003 12:11 pm Post subject:

turbo42 · Posted: Sat May 17, 2003 12:50 pm Post subject:

ok... i'm not a hard core person like both of you are, but i don't think neo is a program. if he is can someone explain how he goes back into the matrix and then to zion.

Feldon · Posted: Sat May 17, 2003 1:09 pm Post subject:

Feldon · Posted: Sat May 17, 2003 1:15 pm Post subject:

solipsta · Posted: Sat May 17, 2003 1:39 pm Post subject:

solipsta · Posted: Sat May 17, 2003 1:41 pm Post subject:

turbo42 · Posted: Sat May 17, 2003 2:28 pm Post subject:

solipsta · Posted: Sat May 17, 2003 4:15 pm Post subject:

gameshark · Posted: Sat May 17, 2003 4:49 pm Post subject:

Im sure they would of loved to have done more, but The Matrix was a hugely expensive film and it certainly was a long, drawn out process, and they have raised the Special effects bar so high, that no one would consider doing it again!

tonyd · Posted: Sat May 17, 2003 5:14 pm Post subject:

i only read like the top 10 post so if this was answered already then too bad..

someone told me the kid neo saves is in the "Animatrix" short, i never saw it but this is what he told me. Also if you found yourself during the movie asking "who the hell is that and where did he come from?" that along with several other questions are i believed answered in the video game version..(again haven't played it yet)

solipsta · Posted: Sat May 17, 2003 5:58 pm Post subject:

turbo42 · Posted: Sat May 17, 2003 7:01 pm Post subject:

i guess Aaliyah's part was played by Jada?

Gamer · Posted: Sat May 17, 2003 7:12 pm Post subject:

Elway0514 · Posted: Sat May 17, 2003 8:01 pm Post subject:

I have a new topic that wasn't discussed or if it was i missed it... How weird were those twin things?? I didn't understand why they could turn into ghost things.. were they programs created that could do that or what?

Gamer · Posted: Sat May 17, 2003 8:05 pm Post subject:

Neologisticism · Posted: Sat May 17, 2003 8:11 pm Post subject:

Elway0514 · Posted: Sat May 17, 2003 8:17 pm Post subject:

I don't think there are going to be 6 Matrix movies... I don't think they have enough ideas/energy/money to make 6 movies