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Texas · Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 9:18 pm Post subject: Smallball Refund?

I was curious as to how to get a refund by paypal from smallball for items not recieved. I ordered two lefty tickets and neither came. I dont want the lefty tickets any longer, i would just like my money back. This is the first time this has happened to me, i have checked all through my email. Junkmail ETC. I recieved the confirmation and receipt in my email but no tickets. If anyone has an idea on this please let me know.

Thanks,

Tex
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bailey · Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 9:28 pm Post subject:

send paypal an email, i have have never needed this but i have heard of many getting there money back from paypal, so you should be fine
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Beaner · Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 7:23 am Post subject:

Just filed a dispute myself. After you sign in at the Paypal home page, there will be a tab at the top of the page that says "Resolution Center". Click on that and go from there.
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oaf · Veteran Joined: 13 Sep 2004 Forum ID: 5111

So is it suggested never to use the SmallBall mall anymore? Or have some people still been getting smaller tickets fast, like in the old days?

aka scouting reports, stadiums, QT's
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Beaner · Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 8:45 am Post subject:

Texas · Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 9:04 am Post subject:

Greek Wizard · Veteran Joined: 22 Oct 2002 Location: Canada Forum ID: 3

I have decided to remove the smallball mall links from the forum.

it's obvious that Smallball is pretty well done, and their account with paypal will be shut down soon from all the refund requests IMO.
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Beaner · Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 10:19 am Post subject:

Yeah if they aren't even bothering to take the money we send them, how much longer can the game last?

Bummer. Confused

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bailey · Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 1:31 pm Post subject:

i still seem to get all my tickets, but when i buy something, i just buy them 1 at a time, and when i get it, i go and buy the next item Smile

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mrflanell · Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 1:37 pm Post subject:

Beaner · Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 1:49 pm Post subject:

bailey · Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 1:58 pm Post subject:

Kindred · Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 4:59 pm Post subject:

If people don't mind my asking, how long ago did you folks order the items you ordered that haven't arrived? The reason I ask, is because the other day (much against my better judgement, and probably for the first time in eons) I purchased a Holiday Pack. It arrived fine, instantaneously. So, I decided hell, let me have some trivia for my next tourney...and ordered two packs of 20 scouting reports (separately, so as to ensure better odds of receiving one)...and have since not received either of those packs. I have the receipts from Paypal, but no tickets. And yes, I've checked Junk Mail, but the tickets usually arrive fine right in my mailbox. I'm not blocking. So wondering if they all stopped being delivered just around that time? (Yesterday?)

I suspect that GW is right, and I think he's doing the right thing.

Btw, people....don't ever buy a DT from the SB Mall for $20. Contact me, and I will be happy to work through Beaner or a TA or something somehow...but anyone who has a RealArcade account like I do can get them for at least $15, a $5 discount. And once a month I can get one for $8 (free with the monthly RealArcade fee). (However, my best advice to you is not to bother at all...I think we all know that anything invested at this point is a stranded investment...however, if you just want $15 worth of fun outa the deal with nothing back later, then I say go ahead.)
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bailey · Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 5:16 pm Post subject:

Kindred · Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 5:20 pm Post subject:

Big Hippie · Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 6:32 pm Post subject:

ask not what smallscam, i mean ball, can do for you.....
purely evil . shameful...
i cant wait to hear the latest excuse. bring it. Shocked

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Tight_Wads · Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 7:08 pm Post subject:

bailey · Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 7:17 pm Post subject:

GCool · Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 7:24 pm Post subject:

Sorry to be off-topic, but bailey, you, are, the, king, of commas!!
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bailey · Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 7:43 pm Post subject:

Trevor · Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 7:46 pm Post subject:

lol way to use commas Gcool...........keep up the good commaing Bailey Wink

Beaner · Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 5:38 am Post subject:

hferris · Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 6:31 am Post subject:

Beaner, you should escalate it immediately, they will not respond. Why wait 20 days, they didn't bother responding when I filed my claim, and no one has responded to any other issues so why give them your money for 20 more days?

It seems purely random if you get your tickts or not. When I was still training I ordered Holiday tickets and they never came, which made it easier to decide to quit training, so I tried one more order for Sabs, and they came right away. Laughing

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Beaner · Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 6:34 am Post subject:

Beaner · Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 12:47 pm Post subject:

I have now escalated from a "dispute" to a "claim".

Order from the mall at your own risk people! Shocked

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Kindred · Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 12:56 pm Post subject:

I have taken the time to do the proper process and emailed all three addresses to Smallball and commish about this. I'll give it another day or so, then I'll file a dispute with Paypal as well. I'll quickly escalate that to a claim though so as not to waste time.
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LCD · Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 1:17 pm Post subject:

7 and half months later and still havent received tickets from my 700 packs.

filed a claim but paypal says claims need to be filed 45 days from original transaction and by that time it was long past.

and as for DT tickets. i still receive a monthly one from real since my original subscription is renewed yearly as to a further discount and will til next April Rolling Eyes

. IF you need a DT ticket contact me I got several ill sell for $13.
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GCool · Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 2:01 pm Post subject:

Chippy · Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 2:16 pm Post subject:

bailey · Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 6:53 pm Post subject:

jimmygfat · Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 6:40 pm Post subject:

After reading this post, I really believe that Smallball is going to die. It's a real shame, you think someone could buy this game and keep it alive. One last time for the Guitar Heroes 67741, R.O.T.O.R. 403057, Eskimo Spies 405500, Kung-Fu Grip 109389, The Strangers 181111 and Fight Style 194250.
LAST… I agree with Oprah. The opposite of Love is not Hate…OH YE COMMISH!!! It is APATHY!!!!
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ALT · Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 5:33 am Post subject:

Beaner · Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 10:13 am Post subject:

TThomp · Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 11:18 am Post subject:

Wouldn't you love to know what the profit to cost ratio is for SmallBall?
I know I would. It would be interesting to take over SmallBall. I imagine it wouldn't be cheap. I think this could still be a money maker with the right group of people willing to manage it.
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Money · Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 12:40 pm Post subject:

bailey · Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 12:45 pm Post subject:

TThomp · Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 2:17 pm Post subject:

Greek Wizard · Veteran Joined: 22 Oct 2002 Location: Canada Forum ID: 3

There is more too it.

You would need to be a programmer to run it

And I can't see him selling the source code.
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TThomp · Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 2:51 pm Post subject:

Kindred · Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 10:30 am Post subject:

For the record, I had my disputes registered for a few days now, and have now escalate them with Paypal to formal claims (complaints). We'll see how long it takes to get my money back, I don't think it will take Paypal long to make that ruling considering that the email the SB account has on file with them is "commish@smallball.org" which bounces all email due to a full mailbox.
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Beaner · Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 5:42 am Post subject:

Kindred · Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 5:45 am Post subject:

bailey · Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 5:52 am Post subject:

surely paypal can see that a lot of people are getting there tickets, and a few are not, so they too must be wondering what is up

i still, have never, ever, had a problem buying tickets Surprised

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dtown · Expert Joined: 17 Aug 2004 Forum ID: 5009

I won my claim yesterday, didn't take long at all. As far as SB's paypal getting shutdown goes.. I am betting there is a huge balance because the money has not been withdrawn. If that is the the case I guess they will either force the balance to his bank account or send him a check.
Maybe once the account is empty they will close it, I dunno.

TThomp · Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 12:37 pm Post subject:

Glad to hear you guys are getting your money back. It's a shame it had to come down to filing claims though.
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nelmo · Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 4:32 pm Post subject:

The game cannot survive without some kind of management. It may still be working, but when money is spent, and someone is charging for something, they have to be held accountable. Paypal is great, and have been carrying the ball with collections. I won a claim not to long ago also.

Sad thing to happen to this game Crying or Very sad

Scud42 · Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 5:36 pm Post subject:

I would definitely be interested in seeing what happens to SmallBall over the next few months. I also see huge potential for this game, if it ever became well known. I in fact only stumbled upon it by accident.

I work with a team of programmers doing work in many different languages for the US Gov. I think if Commish was ever interested in selling the game, he would have a few interested parties, myself included.

Also, I have started a thread to start keeping track of the issues people have had with the mall. Could you all please post what you have lost, so we can keep track? Thanks!
http://www.forums.smallball.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=517297#517297

Kindred · Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 1:21 pm Post subject: