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BasPilot Expert
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Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 9:31 pm Post subject:
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Okay, here's a question for you guys...
Because I cannot use a radical, I will use ^-1 to mean square root...
If, -a X -a = a (positive) then why does i X i = -1?
Discuss that one...
PS - for you lowerlings, i is not just some variable as 'a' is in the first equation... i is the imaginery number equal to (-1)^-1 (or the square root of negative one)
The reason i was named is because there is not a possible way that any number squared can equal negative one.
Let's see who can come up with this concept... |
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epiphanic Pro
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
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Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 10:33 pm Post subject:
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I may be WAY off, but if ^2 * ^2 = 2, then it stands that the squaring and square root is itself.
Here's something that blew my mind,
Let a=x
a+x = 2X, subtract 2a from both sides, giving
-a+x = 2x - 2a, factor the 2,
-a+x = 2(-a+x), divide by (-a+x) and you get
1 = 2 _________________
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Durin Veteran
Joined: 15 Aug 2003 Location: Minneapolis, MN, U.S Forum ID: 2542
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Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 10:37 pm Post subject:
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The basic, easy explaination is that i is an imaginary number (not real), so the standard rules of algebra can't always be applied in scenarios involving i.
On the other hand, if i is the square root of negative one, it's only logical that by multiplying it by itself, you are squaring it, and by squaring it, you are performing the inverse of the square root function, and thus can assume that the number inside the square root remains the same.
In other words, if f(x)=x^2 and (f^-1)(x)=x^(1/2), then f[(f^-1)(x)]=x.
*x^2 denotes x squared, (f^-1)(x) denotes the inverse function of f(x), x^(1/2) denotes x raised to the power of one-half (which is the same as the square root of x), f[(f^-1)(x)] is the composition of the function f(x) with its inverse function (f^-1)(x).
I confused myself a little here, but I think what I typed makes sense.
Edit (to avoide double posting)-
epiphanic wrote: | I may be WAY off, but if ^2 * ^2 = 2, then it stands that the squaring and square root is itself.
Here's something that blew my mind,
Let a=x
a+x = 2X, subtract 2a from both sides, giving
-a+x = 2x - 2a, factor the 2,
-a+x = 2(-a+x), divide by (-a+x) and you get
1 = 2 |
The problem with that is that if a=x, then -a+x=0. Divide by 0 error, anyone?
It does seem foolproof though, without really thinking about it. _________________
The English Language wrote: | Please stop killing me. |
Last edited by Durin on Thu Nov 17, 2005 10:41 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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epiphanic Pro
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Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 10:51 pm Post subject:
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Yea Durin! You guys figured it out alot quicker than I did. Good work. _________________
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Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 11:14 pm Post subject:
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Math makes me throw-up. It really does. |
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Durin Veteran
Joined: 15 Aug 2003 Location: Minneapolis, MN, U.S Forum ID: 2542
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Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 12:20 am Post subject:
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epiphanic wrote: | Yea Durin! You guys figured it out alot quicker than I did. Good work. |
Ah, well, I have to admit I'd seen that before in my AP calculus class, where my teacher had to show us what was wrong.
Even after that, it took my a while to figure it out again, but I knew it had something to do with dividing by 0! _________________
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Lola Lola Rookie
Joined: 06 Aug 2005 Location: old Soho Forum ID: 6090
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Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 12:43 am Post subject:
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In another thread, I asked for the square root of i and no one responded. i has two square roots and they both lie in the field of complex numbers (all complex numbers have two square roots in the field)
Hint: The field of complex numbers can be represented a a two dimensional field with real numbers being the x axis and imaginary numbers the y axis. The square root of i has to have an absolute value of 1. _________________ Whatever Lola wants, Lola gets
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Joined: 20 May 2005 Location: Oot and Aboot. Forum ID: 5765
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Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 11:47 am Post subject:
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yagadan05 wrote: | Math makes me throw-up. It really does. |
*hypnotizing voice* 2 + 2 = 4. 2 + 2 = 4! *end hypnotizing voice*
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Chippy Veteran
Joined: 25 Oct 2002 Location: Northampton, MA Forum ID: 76
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Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 12:30 pm Post subject:
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What Durin said is, to the best of my knowledge, basically right. i is an imaginary number, thus basic rules of algebra can't always be applied to it. _________________
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Beaner Global Moderator
Joined: 25 Oct 2002 Location: Atlanta, Ga. USA Forum ID: 71
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Lola Lola Rookie
Joined: 06 Aug 2005 Location: old Soho Forum ID: 6090
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Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 2:24 pm Post subject:
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Durin said:
Quote: | The basic, easy explaination is that i is an imaginary number (not real), so the standard rules of algebra can't always be applied in scenarios involving i.
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This is not true, the standard rules of algebra apply to imaginary and complex numbers. _________________ Whatever Lola wants, Lola gets
And little man, little Lola wants you
Make up your mind to have no regrets
Recline yourself, resign yourself you're through
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Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 5:58 pm Post subject:
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Math may actually give me a good scholarship.
I made a 27 on my ACT test, and made a 35(out of 36.. meaning I missed 1 question out of 60) in Math. _________________ Quote of the Week:
Don't take life too seriously, you'll never get out of it alive. |
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Durin Veteran
Joined: 15 Aug 2003 Location: Minneapolis, MN, U.S Forum ID: 2542
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Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 6:17 pm Post subject:
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Lola Lola wrote: | Durin said:
Quote: | The basic, easy explaination is that i is an imaginary number (not real), so the standard rules of algebra can't always be applied in scenarios involving i.
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This is not true, the standard rules of algebra apply to imaginary and complex numbers. |
Heh, I wasn't sure about that so a little later on in the post, I sort of disproved myself on that.
I'll work on your square root of i problem as soon as I have time. _________________
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