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West Coast Pro
Joined: 10 Feb 2006 Location: Albany, OR Forum ID: 6581
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Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 5:40 pm Post subject:
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quick, easy question.
The more games you play, the more skill you lose.
True or False? _________________ SBCF Admin
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humdrums Veteran
Joined: 12 Mar 2006 Location: Amherst, MA Forum ID: 6682
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Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 5:42 pm Post subject:
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I'm in the MLB Wildcard UL that dtown set up. He set it up to play 162 games, I'm 131-48 so far this season, I think it's a myth _________________
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cardinalsfre Pro
Joined: 20 May 2006
Forum ID: 6976
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Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 5:44 pm Post subject:
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humdrums wrote: | I'm in the MLB Wildcard UL that dtown set up. He set it up to play 162 games, I'm 131-48 so far this season, I think it's a myth |
131+48=179, wth u talking about? |
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humdrums Veteran
Joined: 12 Mar 2006 Location: Amherst, MA Forum ID: 6682
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Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 5:44 pm Post subject:
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cardinalsfre wrote: | humdrums wrote: | I'm in the MLB Wildcard UL that dtown set up. He set it up to play 162 games, I'm 131-48 so far this season, I think it's a myth |
131+48=179, wth u talking about? |
Other teams have challenged me, is that a problem? _________________
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cardinalsfre Pro
Joined: 20 May 2006
Forum ID: 6976
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Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 5:45 pm Post subject:
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humdrums wrote: | cardinalsfre wrote: | humdrums wrote: | I'm in the MLB Wildcard UL that dtown set up. He set it up to play 162 games, I'm 131-48 so far this season, I think it's a myth |
131+48=179, wth u talking about? |
Other teams have challenged me, is that a problem? |
ohhh i thought u meant just in that league, but i gotcha now |
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Wayne All Stars Pro
Joined: 23 May 2006 Location: Wayne, New Jersey Forum ID: 7005
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Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 5:53 pm Post subject:
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reality, cuz if you play all day, then you dont train alot causing your team to get worse _________________ Wayne Valley Indians
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bailey Trade Agent of the Month
Joined: 27 Nov 2005 Location: In the closet, boo!! Forum ID: 6392
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Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 5:54 pm Post subject:
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myth, the more games you play, the more likely you will have a few bad games, so it looks like your losing skill _________________ BB . 55229 . 130295 . 13611 . 8358 . 856 (SBD Community)
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humdrums Veteran
Joined: 12 Mar 2006 Location: Amherst, MA Forum ID: 6682
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Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 5:56 pm Post subject:
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Wayne All Stars wrote: | reality, cuz if you play all day, then you dont train alot causing your team to get worse |
That's normal skill loss, we're talking about skill loss because of playing games. _________________
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bigdogv65 Trade Agent of the Month
Joined: 03 Dec 2005 Location: TEXAS Forum ID: 6405
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Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 5:58 pm Post subject:
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SmallBall Knights says he has proof that the skill loss is greater if 6 or more games are played in a 24 hour period. I have yet to experience this but if anyone would know about a test or theory in this game it would be him or Jon2s. lol
I say play ball. I'm still in PL3 however. _________________ "The desire to be a champion is not nearly as persuasive as the commitment to be a champion" |
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West Coast Pro
Joined: 10 Feb 2006 Location: Albany, OR Forum ID: 6581
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Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 5:59 pm Post subject:
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Wayne All Stars wrote: | reality, cuz if you play all day, then you dont train alot causing your team to get worse |
wow....absolutely....wow...
bailey wrote: | myth, the more games you play, the more likely you will have a few bad games, so it looks like your losing skill |
out of 8 replies, thank you for the only true answer bailey and bigdog...
so its not ACTUALLY proven to lose MORE skill? sounds good...thanks a lot.. _________________ SBCF Admin
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bigdogv65 Trade Agent of the Month
Joined: 03 Dec 2005 Location: TEXAS Forum ID: 6405
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Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 6:14 pm Post subject:
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West Coast wrote: | Wayne All Stars wrote: | reality, cuz if you play all day, then you dont train alot causing your team to get worse |
wow....absolutely....wow...
bailey wrote: | myth, the more games you play, the more likely you will have a few bad games, so it looks like your losing skill |
out of 8 replies, thank you for the only true answer bailey and bigdog...
so its not ACTUALLY proven to lose MORE skill? sounds good...thanks a lot.. |
No problem West Coast. Just keep pluggin. If that were true......wouldnt you get TP quicker if you didnt play at all. Just kidding of course. _________________ "The desire to be a champion is not nearly as persuasive as the commitment to be a champion" |
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breakboy forever Veteran
Joined: 09 Nov 2005 Location: Bay Area Forum ID: 6341
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Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 6:18 pm Post subject:
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bigdogv65 wrote: | SmallBall Knights says he has proof that the skill loss is greater if 6 or more games are played in a 24 hour period. I have yet to experience this but if anyone would know about a test or theory in this game it would be him or Jon2s. lol
I say play ball. I'm still in PL3 however. |
I would have to agree. When I'm experimenting, I play 5-10 games, open the DT, and see if my pitcher loses skill. For one of my team, he does, but with my other team, he doesn't. So I don't really know if it's a myth or a reality. I guess it's just the team that loses skill more. You will have to experiment with your team to find *your* resolution. _________________
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Slip'N'Sliders Trade Agent of the Month
Joined: 07 Aug 2003 Location: Chattanooga, TN Forum ID: 2483
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Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 6:19 pm Post subject:
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bigdogv65 wrote: | SmallBall Knights says he has proof that the skill loss is greater if 6 or more games are played in a 24 hour period. I have yet to experience this but if anyone would know about a test or theory in this game it would be him or Jon2s. lol
I say play ball. I'm still in PL3 however. |
I recalled him saying something of this also, but he said the skill loss difference is so tiny it would take ALOT of games to even make a slight difference. Correct me if Im wrong anyone. _________________
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bailey Trade Agent of the Month
Joined: 27 Nov 2005 Location: In the closet, boo!! Forum ID: 6392
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Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 6:24 pm Post subject:
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interesting, try this wc, train, and when you finish, write down the time, then play as many games as you can, then after 48 hours exactly, see if you pie is full or not _________________ BB . 55229 . 130295 . 13611 . 8358 . 856 (SBD Community)
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breakboy forever Veteran
Joined: 09 Nov 2005 Location: Bay Area Forum ID: 6341
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Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 6:28 pm Post subject:
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bailey wrote: | interesting, try this wc, train, and when you finish, write down the time, then play as many games as you can, then after 48 hours exactly, see if you pie is full or not |
Of course your pie is full, lol. Unless of course you have Passive Training on. The question West Coast was asking is, "If you play lots of games, does your team lose skill". That means if you play games, will your players lose skill... not lose TP.
Sorry, just had to clarify. _________________
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bailey Trade Agent of the Month
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Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 6:33 pm Post subject:
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breakboy forever wrote: | bailey wrote: | interesting, try this wc, train, and when you finish, write down the time, then play as many games as you can, then after 48 hours exactly, see if you pie is full or not |
Of course your pie is full, lol. Unless of course you have Passive Training on. The question West Coast was asking is, "If you play lots of games, does your team lose skill". That means if you play games, will your players lose skill... not lose TP.
Sorry, just had to clarify. | sorry, i went off topic, but my point was if you didnt get to the full pie, then in reality, you lose skill, lose pie, lose skill _________________ BB . 55229 . 130295 . 13611 . 8358 . 856 (SBD Community)
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breakboy forever Veteran
Joined: 09 Nov 2005 Location: Bay Area Forum ID: 6341
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Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 6:34 pm Post subject:
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Oh I see. That would be a great experiment. I might try it. _________________
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mlthmp Veteran
Joined: 16 May 2003
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Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 6:48 pm Post subject:
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Personally.. I believe the majority of a team wont have MUCH skill loss if many games are played between trainings.. EXCEPT for the pitchers.
I know for a fact that when I play 8 or more games between trainings.. my pitcher's pitch skill drops a good 3-4 MPH..
So I think if you play alot of games.. just make sure every so often your pitcher is still OK and you should do pretty good. _________________ http://sbdevils.com/forum/ and http://smallball.info The only forums you'll ever need. |
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paphillyman Trade Agent of the Month
Joined: 24 Dec 2004 Location: pennsylvania, philly Forum ID: 5435
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Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 7:42 pm Post subject:
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I know a few times I had a team pretty high on the 9* list , and after I played a game they dropped pretty good _________________ It is difficult to say what is impossible , for the dream of yesterday is the hope of today and the reality of tomorrow.
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dekid Member
Joined: 13 Jan 2006 Location: NP, New Jersey Forum ID: 6522
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Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 9:08 pm Post subject:
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if that's true about pitchers losing skill as you play more games, it makes it more important to have two equal pitchers . You just replace him after a few games.
I have a question. If you play a game right after training, does it affect your team in a positive or negative way? |
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Broda Rookie
Joined: 29 Jun 2005 Location: Beaumont, TX Forum ID: 5899
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Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 9:16 pm Post subject:
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dekid wrote: | I have a question. If you play a game right after training, does it affect your team in a positive or negative way? |
I think it depends on the team. Bigdog told me that one of his teams does pretty good right after training while another does really bad. _________________
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bailey Trade Agent of the Month
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Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 9:44 pm Post subject:
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as a newbie, i was about 4-5*, i played a game, didnt have Timeshift, so i stopped and went into training, then when i finished i logged into the game again, and watched as my team went from 11-1 approx down to win 20?-11, good finish, later i realised it had nothing to do with training, but at the time, i thought, woooowoowowow _________________ BB . 55229 . 130295 . 13611 . 8358 . 856 (SBD Community)
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paphillyman Trade Agent of the Month
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Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 10:08 pm Post subject:
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Check this out :
It was Sunday night , last day of the season a few seasons ago , I had one game to be played against me , I train this team in the early evening , so its about 2 am and the game isnt played yet , now this team is a high 9* team sometimes 10* , so I figured since the game still has to be played I would go into the trainer and use any TP that was there, because it was Sunday night and Mondays was an off day.
Well anyways , after I was done with the training , I looked on my team page and whamooo , I was dropped to 8* _________________ It is difficult to say what is impossible , for the dream of yesterday is the hope of today and the reality of tomorrow.
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Rightzilla Rookie
Joined: 30 Jul 2006 Location: Las Vegas, Nevada Forum ID: 7370
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Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 3:10 pm Post subject:
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sooo....nobody really knows. _________________ Rightzilla Kdubyas BLB - 8* 7.0 Honor |
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SB_Knights Trade Agent of the Month
Joined: 21 Oct 2005 Location: New Amsterdam Forum ID: 6291
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Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 3:49 pm Post subject:
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True. The more you play the quicker you lose skills. Unless you play a massive amount of games the loss is not major however, but there is an extra loss.
This is why it is so important to have a pitcher that holds skill well. Say you play 5 or 6 games and your pitchers ability drops from 110-112 to 106-108 you might find yourself an easy target in the PL's and go from being 6-0 when you go to bed to 6-6 when you wake up because people noticed you played a lot of games that day and your pitcher is tired. _________________
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adaml83 Rookie
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Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 5:10 pm Post subject:
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Never knew that they took account of how tired a pitcher was.
But aside from the higher PLs would it matter much if the pitcher had a high enough skill? _________________ 132472, 551096, 551226 7* DT
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theprinzishere Member
Joined: 18 Jul 2006 Location: Philippines/Jerz3y Forum ID: 7317
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Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 5:27 pm Post subject:
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oh so thats why my team was below .300 last season... hmmm... i played 200+ games last season... my pitchers gave up like 4+ HRs(each) a game... it was really frustrating!!! now i know. i shouldnt play a lot of games. _________________
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bailey Trade Agent of the Month
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Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 5:36 pm Post subject:
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theprinzishere wrote: | oh so thats why my team was below .300 last season... hmmm... i played 200+ games last season... my pitchers gave up like 4+ HRs(each) a game... it was really frustrating!!! now i know. i shouldnt play a lot of games. | dont be silly, play as many as you can, and play all the teams in my pl why you are at it, allll the time, then i can play them, lol _________________ BB . 55229 . 130295 . 13611 . 8358 . 856 (SBD Community)
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SB_Knights Trade Agent of the Month
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Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2006 4:35 pm Post subject:
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I've done over 300 games in a season. If your pitcher is losing skill so quickly he loses a large amount of your games do not blame that on skill loss, blame that on you picking a bad pitcher. _________________
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